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mika пишет:
raevsky, видимо вы не правильно меня поняли. Судимость одна! Просто судимость была по двум статьям.
Будьте любезны, объясните почему у меня "пожизненный запрет на получение виз"?
Судимость одна.Условная. Давно погашенная. Даже в том случае, если я сообщу, что такой факт имел место быть, дабы никого не обманывать, не понимаю почему запрет, да еще и пожизненный.
Не сочтите, что я с Вами спорю. Я хочу более детально понять все нюансы. |
https://www.estas.net/ckeditor_assets/...bility.pdf
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9 FAM 40.21(a) N7.6 Distinguishing Between Single
Offense and Single Conviction
(CT:VISA-753; 06-29-2005)
The INA language requires that the sentencing clause exemption is applicable only
if the alien has committed only one crime involving moral turpitude. You must
determine, as a matter of fact, whether despite the fact that there is a single
conviction, the alien may have committed more than one crime. |
U vas hotia odna sudimost', no 2 prestuplenia.
Poetomu k vam nepriminim waiver, kotoryi daetsia v sluchae odnogo prestuplenia tem, komu ne bylo 18 let
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9 FAM 40.21(A) N8 SINGLE CRIME INVOLVING
MORAL TURPITUDE WHILE UNDER AGE 18 INA
212(A)(2)(A)(II)(I) |
Krome togo, vam uje bylo 15 let v moment sovershenia prestuplenia, i prigovor byl vo vzroslom sude, poetomu oba prestuplenia dlia vas schitaiutsia polnocennymi
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9 FAM 40.21(a) N9.4-2 Between Ages 15 and 18
(CT:VISA-2151; 07-28-2014)
Juveniles between the ages of 15 and 18 at the time of commission of an offense
will not be considered to have committed a crime, and thus be inadmissible under
INA 212(a)(2)(A)(i)(I), unless tried and convicted as an adult for a felony
involving violence. A felony is defined in 18 U.S.C. 3559(a) or 18 U.S.C. 3156(a)
as an offense punishable by death or imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.
A crime of violence is defined in 18 U.S.C 16 as:
(1) An offense that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened
use of physical force against the person or property of another; or
(2) Any offense that is a felony and that, by its nature, involves a substantial
risk that physical force against the person or property of another may be
used in the course of committing the offense. |
Krome togo, oba prestuplenia - felonies, involving violence. Poskol'ko v oboih maksimal'nyi srok otsidki svyshe goda, i v oboih est' element primenenia sily.
Krome togo, oba prestuplenia soderjat zloi umysle, poetomu oni moral turpitude.
Takim obrazom, esli by vam ne bylo 15 let, to prestuplenia by ne diskvalificirovali vas ot viz.
Daje esli by odno iz prestuplenii bylo soversheno do 15-letia, a drugoe - v 15 let, to pervoe by ne uchityvalos', a ot vtorogo vy by mogli poluchit' waiver (single crome of moral turpitude).
Ili esli by prestuplenia slushalis' v iuvenal'nom sude, oni by ne uchityvalis'.
Odnako, vas sudili po polnoi programme, kak vzroslogo, za chrezvychaino serioznye prestuplenia, sviazannye s nasiliem i zlym umyzlom, s maksimal'nym srokom svyshe goda kajdoe. 2 sudimosti za podobnye prestuplenia daiut vam pojiznennyi zapret na vizy.
Dlia sravnenia, stat'ia pro razbor lifta ne imeet nikakogo iz etih elementov - ni zlogo umysla, ni nasilia.
